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Networking Over Firewire

Firewire Networks

Read HomeNetHelp's article explaining FireWire Networks

Two PC’s with Firewire adapters needs no other hardware to network. Firewire operates at 100-400Mbps and has little latency. Unfortunately, the 15 Ft limitation between devices may limit the possible uses of Firewire networks to small peer-to-peer operations.

Operating System Support

Currently, only Windows ME has native support for Firewire networking. When a firewire card is installed in a computer running Windows ME, a virtual ‘network adapter’ is installed in Network Properties. This virtual adapter can be configured with a specific IP address or it will create its own IP schema for the Firewire network automatically. WindowsME uses a standard called “IPv4 over IEEE 1394, Internet RFC 2734”.

Unibrain’s FireNet

Unibrain manufactures Ethernet emulation software called FireNet. Instead of limiting networking over Firewire to IP, Firenet allows you to network with any Ethernet protocol like IPX, Appletalk, and NetBeui (and IP of course). Firenet’s product is easy to install and appears in your Network Properties (windows) as a network adapter. FireNet runs on Windows 2000 and Windows98/98SE/ME. Unibrain also has a version for the Macintosh. (look for a full Mac and PC FireNet review in January 2001)

Benchmarking Firewire Networking

These benchmark numbers show the actual throughput that can be expected when transferring files between computers. The results are in Mbits/Second.

Benchmark Computers:

1 P3-800 Computer, known as server

1 P2-350 Computer, known as client

The tests performed involved FTP’ing 70Mb test files from the client computer to the server computer. The client and server computer were tested with Windows ME and Windows 200 Professional operating systems in a dual-boot configuration. WFTPD 2.41 FTP Server was run on the server and the clients ran the command line FTP client built into windows.

100Mbit Ethernet benchmarks were also performed for comparison. The Ethernet cards were connected to a 10/100 switch and were in Full Duplex mode.

These results clearly illustrate the superiority of Windows 2000 Professional over Windows ME. Firewire operates over twice as fast in Windows 2000 over Windows ME. FireNet performs so well in Windows 2000 that Firewire Networking outpaces 100Mbit Ethernet. According to Unibrain, Firenet performs even better with multiple clients – reaching into the 200Mbit/second range

Part 2: Peripherals

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Firewire Networking within the Home by Patrick Rowland - 20/08/2001 14:12:00

Re: Firewire Networking within the Home by ddog - 01/11/2003 23:21:00

Re: Firewire Networking within the Home by sd - 19/06/2004 19:29:00

Re: Firewire Networking within the Home by Sean - 20/04/2005 18:51:00

Re: Firewire Networking within the Home by sofia - 30/07/2005 20:14:00

home networking need help by Ringo - 30/08/2001 02:17:00

Re: home networking need help by philippe - 24/07/2002 13:25:00

Re: home networking need help by Arif - 21/05/2004 03:04:00

Re: home networking need help by philippe - 24/07/2002 13:28:00

Re: home networking need help by cong - 05/02/2003 04:40:00

15 feet? by Adam - 25/09/2001 00:26:00

Re: 15 feet? by Mike - 29/12/2001 22:51:00

Re: 15 feet? by Brian - 20/12/2002 21:13:00

Wireless Firewire? by Jason - 26/09/2001 16:22:00

Re: Wireless Firewire? by Warren - 28/11/2001 03:24:00

Re: Wireless Firewire? by si - 21/07/2002 13:46:00

direct connect by ken lesynski - 11/11/2001 12:08:00

Re: direct connect by cong - 05/02/2003 04:31:00

Re: direct connect - get XP by Xenon2000 - 30/12/2003 21:53:00

There ARE firewire repeaters out there. by Chad - 15/11/2001 18:19:00

FireNet with Win NT by Josh Eaton - 21/11/2001 00:19:00

Firewire Networking by Che Nadel - 13/02/2002 10:33:00

Re: Firewire Networking by Rob WIlkes - 03/04/2002 12:28:00

Re: Firewire Networking by Richard Star - 01/12/2002 13:29:00

Re: Firewire Networking by Thanos Blantas - 19/02/2003 07:52:00

Re: Firewire Networking by Matthew Roberts - 23/02/2003 06:51:00

Re: Firewire Networking by Thomas Nederman - 19/02/2004 03:44:00

Re: Firewire Networking by LCW - 27/10/2003 20:29:00

I don't know how to set up Win XP pro for Firenet by Bear - 13/04/2002 13:17:00

Re: I don't know how to set up Win XP pro for Firenet by bear - 13/04/2002 13:20:00

thank you! by nicky - 26/04/2002 09:35:00

firewire data speeds limited to 3 MB/s? by Chris - 08/08/2002 17:52:00

Re: firewire data speeds limited to 3 MB/s? by cong - 05/02/2003 04:47:00

WindowsME Host. Win XP Guest.. Firwire hell! by Pheuque - 15/08/2002 21:09:00

PC to MAC Firewire Connection?? by Vic - 01/09/2002 21:28:00

Re: PC to MAC Firewire Connection?? by Les - 05/09/2002 17:13:00

Re: PC to MAC Firewire Connection?? by Nick - 27/10/2003 17:04:00

Re: PC to MAC Firewire Connection?? by Randy - 15/12/2003 12:08:00

Re: PC to MAC Firewire Connection?? by Barry - 26/04/2006 04:40:00

Posted by Barry

26/04/2006 04:40:00.

Re: PC to MAC Firewire Connection??

In theory it won't work as a Windows hard disk is formatted (usually) using the NTFS file system, and cannot recognise the Mac OS Extended format used (again, usually) by Apple OS X hard drives.

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Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by freebird - 18/09/2002 13:10:00

Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by kristof - 28/10/2002 04:29:00

Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by Ryan - 03/11/2002 05:03:00

Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by kostan - 11/11/2002 14:49:00

Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by Ryan - 13/11/2002 20:01:00

Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by Ryan - 13/11/2002 20:03:00

Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by skip - 07/01/2003 01:20:00

that's IT! by Dave - 23/12/2003 16:18:00

Firewire wall plates by Marcel Robichaud - 28/10/2002 13:47:00

Re: Firewire wall plates by Peter Burkhart - 09/02/2005 03:39:00

Firewalls with a Router? by Skip Baker - 09/12/2002 11:57:00

Re: Firewalls with a Router? by Roger - 17/12/2002 21:14:00

Re: Firewalls with a Router? by Josh - 05/01/2003 10:04:00

Firewire network by Chris Morris - 05/02/2003 15:31:00

Re: Firewire network by Bruce - 08/02/2003 17:03:00

FireNet installed, now no internet by Jus - 13/02/2003 02:20:00

Re: FireNet installed, now no internet by Sherif - 17/02/2003 06:18:00

XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by Matthew Roberts - 18/02/2003 03:39:00

Re: XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by marc - 13/03/2003 11:47:00

Re: XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by jup - 04/06/2003 14:21:00

Re: XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by bruce - 08/07/2003 22:16:00

Re: XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by Pat - 02/08/2003 23:17:00

Re: XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by rodo - 22/11/2003 03:59:00

Re: XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by Neil - 06/01/2004 16:42:00

Firewire appears unconnected but is by Matthew - 23/02/2003 06:47:00

Netorking 2 systems running XP with ilink 1394 by Brian - 27/02/2003 20:41:00

Re: Netorking 2 systems running XP with ilink 1394 by Gleb - 18/12/2004 19:14:00

length of cable by David - 07/03/2003 06:44:00

Firewire network cuts out at 40MB transfer by Aaron Yorgason - 19/03/2003 17:52:00

Re: Firewire network cuts out at 40MB transfer by Jean - 13/06/2003 10:06:00

Re: Firewire network cuts out at 40MB transfer by xenon2000 - 30/12/2003 21:50:00

Firewire LAN Windows 98SE - XP by cookmangr - 25/04/2003 19:05:00

Firewire Networking w/ Internet by Nick - 01/07/2003 06:08:00

same issue here, still looking for solution. by Xenon2000 - 30/12/2003 21:58:00

Nobody knows 1394 by Mas - 18/08/2003 23:52:00

Macs by Austin - 07/09/2003 23:54:00

Mulitple PCs on a Firewire Network by dDrum - 12/09/2003 10:51:00

Win XP Home IEEE-1394 network by Tom - 11/10/2003 06:26:00

Re: Win XP Home IEEE-1394 network by Marc - 11/11/2003 13:38:00

I need NIC1394 drivers for Win98 Second edition....! by Cybex - 07/12/2003 19:21:00

Re: I need NIC1394 drivers for Win98 Second edition....! by Ralph - 05/02/2004 03:15:00

Network works fine, but ... by David Davies - 21/12/2003 14:16:00

Check your XP firewall settings. by Xenon2000 - 30/12/2003 22:01:00

Re: Check your XP firewall settings. by fp - 18/02/2006 00:11:00

some hell of a Firewire by thewizz - 28/01/2004 00:31:00

External Firewire HDD connected to 2 PC's? by Robin - 17/05/2004 23:17:00

Re: External Firewire HDD connected to 2 PC's? by william - 17/08/2004 23:20:00

PC with XP to MAC with OSX ?? by winus - 01/11/2004 15:59:00

Re: PC with XP to MAC with OSX ?? by piet - 14/04/2005 15:52:00

how to connect two PCs via ieee 1394? by murat - 19/03/2006 21:55:00

Posted by murat

19/03/2006 21:55:00.

how to connect two PCs via ieee 1394?

I read and article indicating that "If IEEE 1394 ports are available, try connecting the two computers with an IEEE 1394 cable. On each machine, Windows XP will immediately create a new network connection and a$$ign it an IP address. Within a few seconds, you should be able to open a Windows Explorer window to the other computer by typing \\machine_name in the address bar."
I tried to connect other computer using the above mentioned method. However, when i type \\machine_name a window popup asking me the pa$$word for User machine_name/guest.

I have Win XP Home on both of the computers and could not figure out how to connect them via 1eee1394 cable. Any help will be Appretiated....

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Re: how to connect two PCs via ieee 1394? by Allan - 24/04/2006 09:48:00

Posted by Allan

24/04/2006 09:48:00.

Re: how to connect two PCs via ieee 1394?

You need to go into the properties and a$$ign a IP address for each workstation. Use a private IP address, you don't need a gateway. I network Macs to Windows and Macs to Mac. It's just another net. You can connect to another machine and turn on connection sharing, then you will have DHCP and that can a$$ign the IP addresses, then that machines becomes the gateway and everting is automatic.

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