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Networking Over Firewire
Firewire Networks
 Two PC’s with Firewire adapters needs no other hardware to network. Firewire operates at 100-400Mbps and has little latency. Unfortunately, the 15 Ft limitation between devices may limit the possible uses of Firewire networks to small peer-to-peer operations.
Operating System Support
Currently, only Windows ME has native support for Firewire networking. When a firewire card is installed in a computer running Windows ME, a virtual ‘network adapter’ is installed in Network Properties. This virtual adapter can be configured with a specific IP address or it will create its own IP schema for the Firewire network automatically. WindowsME uses a standard called “IPv4 over IEEE 1394, Internet RFC 2734”. 
Unibrain’s FireNet
Unibrain manufactures Ethernet emulation software called FireNet. Instead of limiting networking over Firewire to IP, Firenet allows you to network with any Ethernet protocol like IPX, Appletalk, and NetBeui (and IP of course). Firenet’s product is easy to install and appears in your Network Properties (windows) as a network adapter. FireNet runs on Windows 2000 and Windows98/98SE/ME. Unibrain also has a version for the Macintosh. (look for a full Mac and PC FireNet review in January 2001) 
Benchmarking Firewire Networking
These benchmark numbers show the actual throughput that can be expected when transferring files between computers. The results are in Mbits/Second.  
Benchmark Computers:
1 P3-800 Computer, known as server
1 P2-350 Computer, known as client
The tests performed involved FTP’ing 70Mb test files from the client computer to the server computer. The client and server computer were tested with Windows ME and Windows 200 Professional operating systems in a dual-boot configuration. WFTPD 2.41 FTP Server was run on the server and the clients ran the command line FTP client built into windows.
100Mbit Ethernet benchmarks were also performed for comparison. The Ethernet cards were connected to a 10/100 switch and were in Full Duplex mode.
These results clearly illustrate the superiority of Windows 2000 Professional over Windows ME. Firewire operates over twice as fast in Windows 2000 over Windows ME. FireNet performs so well in Windows 2000 that Firewire Networking outpaces 100Mbit Ethernet. According to Unibrain, Firenet performs even better with multiple clients – reaching into the 200Mbit/second range

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firewire networking - ip over 1394 for your home network
Firewire Networking within the Home by Patrick Rowland - 8/20/2001 2:12:00 PM
Re: Firewire Networking within the Home by ddog - 11/1/2003 11:21:00 PM
Re: Firewire Networking within the Home by sd - 6/19/2004 7:29:00 PM
Re: Firewire Networking within the Home by Sean - 4/20/2005 6:51:00 PM
Re: Firewire Networking within the Home by sofia - 7/30/2005 8:14:00 PM
home networking need help by Ringo - 8/30/2001 2:17:00 AM
Re: home networking need help by philippe - 7/24/2002 1:25:00 PM
Re: home networking need help by Arif - 5/21/2004 3:04:00 AM
Re: home networking need help by Arif - 5/21/2004 3:04:00 AM
Re: home networking need help by philippe - 7/24/2002 1:28:00 PM
Re: home networking need help by cong - 2/5/2003 4:40:00 AM
15 feet? by Adam - 9/25/2001 12:26:00 AM
Re: 15 feet? by Mike - 12/29/2001 10:51:00 PM
Re: 15 feet? by Brian - 12/20/2002 9:13:00 PM
Wireless Firewire? by Jason - 9/26/2001 4:22:00 PM
Re: Wireless Firewire? by Warren - 11/28/2001 3:24:00 AM
Re: Wireless Firewire? by si - 7/21/2002 1:46:00 PM
direct connect by ken lesynski - 11/11/2001 12:08:00 PM
Re: direct connect by cong - 2/5/2003 4:31:00 AM
Re: direct connect - get XP by Xenon2000 - 12/30/2003 9:53:00 PM
There ARE firewire repeaters out there. by Chad - 11/15/2001 6:19:00 PM
FireNet with Win NT by Josh Eaton - 11/21/2001 12:19:00 AM
Firewire Networking by Che Nadel - 2/13/2002 10:33:00 AM
Re: Firewire Networking by Rob WIlkes - 4/3/2002 12:28:00 PM
Re: Firewire Networking by Richard Star - 12/1/2002 1:29:00 PM
Re: Firewire Networking by Thanos Blantas - 2/19/2003 7:52:00 AM
Re: Firewire Networking by Thanos Blantas - 2/19/2003 7:52:00 AM
Re: Firewire Networking by Thanos Blantas - 2/19/2003 7:52:00 AM
Re: Firewire Networking by Matthew Roberts - 2/23/2003 6:51:00 AM
Re: Firewire Networking by Thomas Nederman - 2/19/2004 3:44:00 AM
Re: Firewire Networking by LCW - 10/27/2003 8:29:00 PM
thank you! by nicky - 4/26/2002 9:35:00 AM
firewire data speeds limited to 3 MB/s? by Chris - 8/8/2002 5:52:00 PM
Re: firewire data speeds limited to 3 MB/s? by cong - 2/5/2003 4:47:00 AM
WindowsME Host. Win XP Guest.. Firwire hell! by Pheuque - 8/15/2002 9:09:00 PM
PC to MAC Firewire Connection?? by Vic - 9/1/2002 9:28:00 PM
Re: PC to MAC Firewire Connection?? by Les - 9/5/2002 5:13:00 PM
Re: PC to MAC Firewire Connection?? by Nick - 10/27/2003 5:04:00 PM
Re: PC to MAC Firewire Connection?? by Randy - 12/15/2003 12:08:00 PM
Re: PC to MAC Firewire Connection?? by Barry - 4/26/2006 4:40:00 AM
Posted by Barry
4/26/2006 4:40:00 AM.
Re: PC to MAC Firewire Connection??
In theory it won't work as a Windows hard disk is formatted (usually) using the NTFS file system, and cannot recognise the Mac OS Extended format used (again, usually) by Apple OS X hard drives.
Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by freebird - 9/18/2002 1:10:00 PM
Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by kristof - 10/28/2002 4:29:00 AM
Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by Ryan - 11/3/2002 5:03:00 AM
Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by kostan - 11/11/2002 2:49:00 PM
Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by Ryan - 11/13/2002 8:01:00 PM
Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by Ryan - 11/13/2002 8:03:00 PM
Re: Firewire network w/Win2000 and XP Home by skip - 1/7/2003 1:20:00 AM
that's IT! by Dave - 12/23/2003 4:18:00 PM
Firewire wall plates by Marcel Robichaud - 10/28/2002 1:47:00 PM
Re: Firewire wall plates by Peter Burkhart - 2/9/2005 3:39:00 AM
Firewalls with a Router? by Skip Baker - 12/9/2002 11:57:00 AM
Re: Firewalls with a Router? by Roger - 12/17/2002 9:14:00 PM
Re: Firewalls with a Router? by Josh - 1/5/2003 10:04:00 AM
Firewire network by Chris Morris - 2/5/2003 3:31:00 PM
Re: Firewire network by Bruce - 2/8/2003 5:03:00 PM
FireNet installed, now no internet by Jus - 2/13/2003 2:20:00 AM
Re: FireNet installed, now no internet by Sherif - 2/17/2003 6:18:00 AM
XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by Matthew Roberts - 2/18/2003 3:39:00 AM
Re: XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by marc - 3/13/2003 11:47:00 AM
Re: XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by bruce - 7/8/2003 10:16:00 PM
Re: XP -] W2K Firenet 'Microsoft NIC1394' problem by rodo - 11/22/2003 3:59:00 AM
Firewire appears unconnected but is by Matthew - 2/23/2003 6:47:00 AM
Netorking 2 systems running XP with ilink 1394 by Brian - 2/27/2003 8:41:00 PM
length of cable by David - 3/7/2003 6:44:00 AM
Firewire network cuts out at 40MB transfer by Aaron Yorgason - 3/19/2003 5:52:00 PM
Re: Firewire network cuts out at 40MB transfer by Jean - 6/13/2003 10:06:00 AM
Re: Firewire network cuts out at 40MB transfer by xenon2000 - 12/30/2003 9:50:00 PM
Firewire LAN Windows 98SE - XP by cookmangr - 4/25/2003 7:05:00 PM
Firewire Networking w/ Internet by Nick - 7/1/2003 6:08:00 AM
Firewire Networking w/ Internet by Nick - 7/1/2003 6:08:00 AM
same issue here, still looking for solution. by Xenon2000 - 12/30/2003 9:58:00 PM
Nobody knows 1394 by Mas - 8/18/2003 11:52:00 PM
Macs by Austin - 9/7/2003 11:54:00 PM
Mulitple PCs on a Firewire Network by dDrum - 9/12/2003 10:51:00 AM
Win XP Home IEEE-1394 network by Tom - 10/11/2003 6:26:00 AM
Re: Win XP Home IEEE-1394 network by Marc - 11/11/2003 1:38:00 PM
Network works fine, but ... by David Davies - 12/21/2003 2:16:00 PM
Check your XP firewall settings. by Xenon2000 - 12/30/2003 10:01:00 PM
Re: Check your XP firewall settings. by fp - 2/18/2006 12:11:00 AM
some hell of a Firewire by thewizz - 1/28/2004 12:31:00 AM
External Firewire HDD connected to 2 PC's? by Robin - 5/17/2004 11:17:00 PM
Re: External Firewire HDD connected to 2 PC's? by william - 8/17/2004 11:20:00 PM
PC with XP to MAC with OSX ?? by winus - 11/1/2004 3:59:00 PM
Re: PC with XP to MAC with OSX ?? by piet - 4/14/2005 3:52:00 PM
how to connect two PCs via ieee 1394? by murat - 3/19/2006 9:55:00 PM
Posted by murat
3/19/2006 9:55:00 PM.
how to connect two PCs via ieee 1394?
I read and article indicating that "If IEEE 1394 ports are available, try connecting the two computers with an IEEE 1394 cable. On each machine, Windows XP will immediately create a new network connection and a$$ign it an IP address. Within a few seconds, you should be able to open a Windows Explorer window to the other computer by typing \\machine_name in the address bar."
I tried to connect other computer using the above mentioned method. However, when i type \\machine_name a window popup asking me the pa$$word for User machine_name/guest.

I have Win XP Home on both of the computers and could not figure out how to connect them via 1eee1394 cable. Any help will be Appretiated....
Re: how to connect two PCs via ieee 1394? by Allan - 4/24/2006 9:48:00 AM
Posted by Allan
4/24/2006 9:48:00 AM.
Re: how to connect two PCs via ieee 1394?
You need to go into the properties and a$$ign a IP address for each workstation. Use a private IP address, you don't need a gateway. I network Macs to Windows and Macs to Mac. It's just another net. You can connect to another machine and turn on connection sharing, then you will have DHCP and that can a$$ign the IP addresses, then that machines becomes the gateway and everting is automatic.

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