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h.323 NetMeeting and a NAT router

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Using NetMeeting 3.0 or h.323 through a NAT based broadband router.  What routers work?
 

When Microsoft developed NetMeeting 3.0 they chose to use the existing h.323 video conferencing protocol. This protocol happens to be completely incompatible with standard NAT(network address translation) - the technology used for most internet sharing devices.
Unlike most TCP/IP applications, NetMeeting uses DYNAMIC PORTS instead of STATIC PORTS. That means that each NetMeeting connection is somewhat different than the last. For instance, the HTTP web site application uses port 80. NetMeeting can use any of over 60,000 different ports. Putting a web server behind a firewall means opening a single small hole. Putting a NetMeeting computer behind a firewall means opening over 60,000 ports - a security nightmare. (see Microsoft's NetMeeting / Firewall notes here  
All broadband routers using (only) standard NAT and all internet sharing programs like Microsoft ICS that use (only) standard NAT will NOT work with NetMeeting or other h.323 software packages.
SOLUTION #1 - The DMZ
If you have a broadband router or broadband gateway that supports a DMZ you can get NetMeeting working on ONE computer. First, assign that computer a STATIC IP address in your network. Then set that new IP address in the router's DMZ. All routers will handle this differently so I can't be much help with your particular config.
Note: A DMZ forwards ALL ports to the DMZ computer. This makes that computer susceptible to attacks from the outside world. This also means that a DMZ overrides all other port forwarding commands set up in your router. Lastly, running a software based firewall on your NetMeeting computer will not work because the firewall will usually block incoming NetMeeting traffic!
Solution #2 - Routers with NetMeeting Support
A few hardware manufacturers have taken it on themselves to actually provide H.323 compatibility. This is not an easy task since the router must search each incoming packet for signs that it might be a netmeeting packet. This is a whole lot more work than a router normally does and may actually be a weak point in the firewall.
NetMeeting support seems to come in two flavors. Outgoing pass-through and Outgoing/Incoming support. When incoming support is provided, it is only for a SINGLE netmeeting computer on your LAN. Outgoing support varies but for the most part it is limited to a SINGLE outgoing session.
Since I do not have all of these routers, I was unable to actually test them all for full functionality. Where appropriate, I have listed and linked to where I found documentation on-line stating h.323 / Netmeeting support.
Routers with NetMeeting Support
To be listed here, a router must al LEAST support NetMeeting outbound passthrough.  Almost all routers support NetMeeting in a DMZ but that is a sad excuse for 'support'.  Please write me with any updates you find!!
No 'Official' support
Outgoing: Passthrough, unsupported
Incoming: DMZ Only, unsupported
Reference:  type "NetMeeting" into their knowledge base
Models
BEFSR11
EtherFast® Cable/DSL Router
BEFSR81
Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router 8 Port Switch
BEFSR41
Linksys EtherFast Cable DSL 4-Port Router
BEFVP41
EtherFast Cable/DSL VPN Router with 4-Port 10/100 Switch
BFW11S4
Linksys Wireless AP Plus Cable/DSL Router w/ 4-Port Switch (802.11b Compliant)
Outgoing: Passthrough
Incoming: DMZ Only
Models
RouteFinder
4 Ethernet 10/100 LAN ports
Reference: Link
RouteFinder Wireless
4 Ethernet 10/100 LAN ports, 802.11b 11Mbps wireless
Reference: Link
RouteFinder VPN
Built in IPSec, 4 10/100 LAN ports
Reference: Link
Outgoing: Passthrough
Incoming: Supported
Models
Pro400/800
4 or 8 10/100 Ethernet LAN ports
Pro800turbo
8 Ethernet 10/100 LAN ports, 2 WAN ports
Wavebase Wireless Gateway
4 10/100 LAN, 802.11b 11Mbps wireless 
Other Router companies I checked for support:  D-Link, SMC, Siemens, Actiontec, NetGear, ZyXEL, trendware, Gigafast
Router Companies I need more info on: 2Wire
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66 comments
h.323 NetMeeting and a NAT router
What about the Belkin Wireless Router? by GeekFunk - 5/10/2002 10:47:00 PM
Check out E-tech also... by Ulrich - 6/14/2002 4:17:00 PM
Re: Check out E-tech also... by Sam - 7/22/2002 4:12:00 PM
cisco 1720 router? by Keith Stewart - 8/30/2002 12:44:00 AM
Re: cisco 1720 router? by Pete J - 9/5/2002 6:00:00 PM
Netgear Router by Gabriel - 9/1/2002 3:32:00 PM
Re: Netgear Router by JW - 9/13/2002 3:55:00 PM
Re: Netgear Router by Ny - 11/3/2002 1:49:00 PM
Re: Netgear Router by Wuwuu - 11/27/2002 9:08:00 PM
Re: Netgear Router by Ny - 11/30/2002 7:44:00 AM
Re: Netgear Router by jim kamal - 1/15/2003 6:16:00 PM
Re: Netgear Router by Liolikas - 2/11/2003 4:22:00 PM
Re: Netgear Router by Ian - 6/25/2003 7:44:00 AM
Netmeeting & Belkin router by Leo Feret - 9/13/2002 1:46:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting & Belkin router by Bob Chandler - 11/12/2003 8:34:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting & Belkin router by Alex - 1/20/2004 10:45:00 AM
Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by Jordan Fedorko - 9/17/2002 9:55:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by Bob Jerr - 10/8/2002 3:26:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by Alpesh Patel - 12/2/2002 4:52:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by jim kamal - 1/15/2003 6:22:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by Mark Lamb - 12/16/2002 3:07:00 AM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by steve - 12/18/2002 9:28:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by LP - 12/22/2002 3:12:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by watson524 - 1/9/2003 12:15:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by Marc - 2/10/2003 12:03:00 AM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by Marc - 2/10/2003 12:11:00 AM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by dave - 2/19/2003 4:25:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by J ohlsson - 6/26/2003 9:00:00 PM
Re: Netmeeting and Linksys BEFSR41 by anne - 10/19/2004 8:53:00 AM
NetMeeting & Handlink router by David Lin - 9/27/2002 1:57:00 AM
Does Cisco PIX 506 supports incoming netmeeting? by Erwin - 10/3/2002 4:37:00 AM
NETMEETING and ORINOCO Wireless by Geoffrey Davis - 10/25/2002 11:31:00 AM
NetMeeting firewall support by David Jaros - 11/21/2002 11:30:00 AM
Re: NetMeeting firewall support by Mohammed Chalil - 12/3/2002 11:15:00 PM
Pooled NAT/PAT by Dogma - 1/7/2003 12:39:00 PM
The solution is... by Graham Daley - 1/10/2003 5:17:00 AM
Re: The solution is... by Frank - 2/9/2003 3:49:00 PM
Re: The solution is... by Graham Daley - 6/2/2003 11:17:00 PM
Re: The solution is... by gary - 7/17/2005 4:26:00 AM
Netopia R9100 works fine! by tafios - 1/16/2003 6:51:00 PM
Netmeeting + web server by John - 2/22/2003 3:11:00 PM
3Com 3c857 by hhohlke - 4/15/2003 12:22:00 PM
Re: 3Com 3c857 by Cho - 1/3/2004 1:38:00 AM
ZYXEL Prestige 652R by Daniel Meyer - 4/23/2003 11:46:00 AM
NAT, Netmeeting and Messenger by Satyricon - 6/3/2003 3:31:00 PM
Re: NAT, Netmeeting and Messenger by c - 6/13/2004 9:38:00 PM
SnapGear Routers support h.323 w/firmware 1.8x by TekAls - 7/14/2003 9:23:00 PM
Belkin and Netmeeting by Mario - 11/20/2003 10:27:00 AM
D-link DI-614+ supports H.323 VOIP by rajaweb - 12/28/2003 10:21:00 PM
Re: D-link DI-614+ supports H.323 VOIP by Sharon - 1/2/2004 7:14:00 PM
H.323 works in either directions with smoothwall by stunted - 6/10/2004 12:08:00 AM
Netgear FWG114P by Elvis - 9/13/2004 9:34:00 PM
netgear mr814 by Dave Dyer - 11/19/2004 1:56:00 AM
Same Routers by Marko - 4/29/2005 1:06:00 AM
Actiontect GT704 WG Netmeeting by Campbell - 3/25/2006 10:11:00 AM
Posted by Campbell
3/25/2006 10:11:00 AM.
Actiontect GT704 WG Netmeeting
I was able to get the Actiontec to work for inbound netmeeting calls by Port Forwarding ports, see www.portforwarding.com it is a very cool site. But I also had to Enabling Dynamic Routing. It doesn't appear to outbound route though. I am not sure why.
2Wire and Netgear Routers by JP - 6/7/2006 6:44:00 PM
Posted by JP
6/7/2006 6:44:00 PM.
2Wire and Netgear Routers
2Wire -- SBC/Yahoo is one of the few telecos that uses this router for their DSL lines. CenturyTel is another telco that is starting to use this for their DSL lines. The newest routers from 2Wire have H.323 aware functionality as they are used for video conferencing using D-Link broadband videophone or Sorenson video phone (VP-100, and other models are coming out soon)

D-Link and I think Netgear routers with the updated firmware have some kind of DMZ built in for video phone (H.323) applications/appliances. What they do is that they put the videophone in the DMZ and computers and others outside the DMZ (aka behind the firewall)
It works fine. I do it every day by Dayl Brinkman - 9/15/2006 11:54:00 AM
Posted by Dayl Brinkman
9/15/2006 11:54:00 AM.
It works fine. I do it every day
Just forward port 1503 to the host you want inside the NAT. I've done this with several different Linksys routers and it works fine.

I literally do it every day, several times a day.

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